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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         March 11, 2021                                                                                         
                           1:34 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Grier Hopkins, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Ivy Spohnholz                                                                                                    
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 63                                                                                                               
"An   Act  relating   to  the   duties  of   the  Department   of                                                               
Transportation and Public Facilities;  renaming the Alaska Marine                                                               
Transportation   Advisory  Board   the   Alaska  Marine   Highway                                                               
Operations Board;  relating to the  membership and duties  of the                                                               
Alaska  Marine Highway  Operations  Board; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 27                                                                                                               
"An Act naming the irene Webber Bridge."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 27 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  63                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY OPERATIONS BOARD                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STUTES                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/15/21                                                                               
02/18/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/18/21       (H)       TRA, STA                                                                                               
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BILL: HB  27                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: NAMING IRENE WEBBER BRIDGE                                                                                         
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STUTES                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/8/21                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/18/21       (H)       TRA                                                                                                    
02/19/21       (H)       FIN REFERRAL ADDED AFTER TRA                                                                           
02/19/21       (H)       BILL REPRINTED                                                                                         
03/11/21       (H)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LOUISE STUTES                                                                                                    
Legislator                                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, presented HB 63.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KERRY CROCKER                                                                                                                   
Staff  to Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Shared a PowerPoint and presented HB 63 on                                                               
behalf of Representative Stutes, prime sponsor.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SARA PERMAN                                                                                                                     
Staff  to Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented HB 27 on behalf of Representative                                                               
Stutes, prime sponsor.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL WEBBER                                                                                                                  
Son of irene Webber                                                                                                             
representing self                                                                                                               
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered comments during the hearing of HB
27.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
NANCY BIRD                                                                                                                      
representing self                                                                                                               
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered comments during the hearing of HB
27.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:34:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRIER HOPKINS  called  the  House Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   1:34  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Drummond, McCabe,  Cronk, Spohnholz  and Hopkins were  present at                                                               
the call to  order.  Representatives Hannan and  McKay arrived as                                                               
the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
         HB  63-ALASKA MARINE HIGHWAY OPERATIONS BOARD                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:36:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 63,  "An Act  relating to  the duties  of the                                                               
Department of Transportation and  Public Facilities; renaming the                                                               
Alaska  Marine Transportation  Advisory Board  the Alaska  Marine                                                               
Highway Operations  Board; relating to the  membership and duties                                                               
of the Alaska Marine Highway  Operations Board; and providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:37:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LOUISE   STUTES,    Legislator,   Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, as  prime sponsor, introduced  HB 63.  Shared  HB 63                                                               
would  begin the  process of  filling the  Alaska Marine  Highway                                                               
System   (AMHS;  "system")   board  with   members  who   brought                                                               
membership and  planning experience  as well as  expertise.    In                                                               
addition to filling the board,  HB 63 would shorten the long-term                                                               
operations  plan review  time  from five  years  to three  years.                                                               
Ideally,  through  the  committee process,  governance  authority                                                               
would be gained, she added.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:39:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KERRY  CROCKER, Staff   to  Representative Louise  Stutes, Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,  introduced  HB   63.    Offering  background                                                               
information,  Mr.  Crocker  shared   the  first  ferry,  the  M/V                                                               
Chilkat, started  operating in 1957,  before Alaska was  a state.                                                               
When  Alaska became  a  state  in 1959,  the  M/V Chilkat  became                                                               
Alaska's  first  state-owned ferry.    That  same year,  Alaskans                                                               
voted to  approve an  $18 million-dollar bond  to build  four new                                                               
ferries  and docks  throughout Alaska.    By 1963,  the AMHS  was                                                               
established.  In 1984, Governor  William Sheffield established an                                                               
AMHS task force to assess  the system's structure and rate system                                                               
in the face of growing demand.   It was determined the system was                                                               
archaic  and  had a  lack  of  continuity  and purpose,  and  new                                                               
management was  recommended.   Without proper  business structure                                                               
in  place, new  boats were  built throughout  the 1960s  and 70s,                                                               
after which  several decades passed  with no construction  of any                                                               
ships.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER put  forth the reality that more than  half the ships                                                               
in the  AMHS fleet  were more than  40 or even  50 years  old and                                                               
required  substantial maintenance  costs.   Slide  4 presented  a                                                               
1989 memorandum  from then-Department of Transportation  & Public                                                               
Facilities (DOT&PF) Commissioner Mark  S. Hickey to then-Governor                                                               
Steve  Cowper, which  acknowledged  the  system suffered  greatly                                                               
from  overall lack  of continuity  and top  management since  its                                                               
inception.  The memo stated,  "The combination of [our] inability                                                               
to articulate  the comprehensive  system plan,  and the  real and                                                               
perceived impacts resulting from  the growing budget dilemma, has                                                               
served  as   the  primary  impetus   for  many  to   support  the                                                               
establishment of a public authority  as a way to address existing                                                               
problems."  This  statement still held true in  2021, Mr. Crocker                                                               
put forth.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:42:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROCKER shared  slide  3,  which stated  in  1984, the  AMHS                                                               
taskforce determined a change in  management structure was needed                                                               
to help  provide business  directive and  success in  the system;                                                               
more  than  30  years  later,  in  2016  under  the  AMHS  Reform                                                               
Initiative by  Southeast Conference, McDowell Group,  and Elliott                                                               
Bay Design Group, it was  determined new management was needed to                                                               
invest in  long-term planning  and strategy.   Finally,  in 2020,                                                               
Governor Mike  Dunleavy commissioned  a marine  operations board,                                                               
with  members  having  the  skills  and  experience  of  a  ferry                                                               
commission.  The  marine operations board would  have the ability                                                               
to assess,  suggest marine business, enhance  revenue, and reduce                                                               
costs,  while   possessing  the   experience  and   knowledge  of                                                               
personnel management, service options,  and ship maintenance.  To                                                               
this end,  HB 63  would replace the  current AMHS  advisory board                                                               
with  a  smaller nine-member  operations  board  composed of  the                                                               
Marine Highway Director, two members  appointed by the Speaker of                                                               
the House,  two members  appointed by  the Senate  President, and                                                               
four members appointed by the governor.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:44:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ  asked   about  the  motivation  behind                                                               
putting the head of the AMHS on the board.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER  said the thought  was that  if the director  were on                                                               
the  board  there  would  be  buy-in,  as  the  current  advisory                                                               
committee often made recommendations that were ignored.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ asked if there  may have been other ways                                                               
of  accomplishing  that, and  perhaps  make  the director  an  ex                                                               
officio member  who ensured recommendations  did not  go ignored,                                                               
along   with  potentially   putting  some   other  accountability                                                               
measures in statute.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER replied yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:46:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked whether  the House Speaker and Senate                                                               
President would be appointing members from those bodies.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  replied no, they  would be members  of the                                                               
public who had AMHS, DOT&PF, or business experience.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:47:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  asked whether legislators would  be on the                                                               
board and if one-year terms  were mentioned because of transition                                                               
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER  replied yes, transitions  from existing  board could                                                               
take one year.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MCCABE  said   he   thought   it  aligned   with                                                               
legislators since it said those appointed by the speaker.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES  said  it   did  need  clarification,  and                                                               
[members  would come  from public  sector because]  they did  not                                                               
wish to make [choosing board members] a "political football."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:49:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS asked  how the governor's version  differed from HB
63.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER replied  major differences were who  chose the boards                                                               
and  the board's  terms: in  the governor's  version two  members                                                               
were appointed to a one-year, two  to a two-year, two to a three-                                                               
year, two  to a four-year,  and two to  a five-year term.   There                                                               
was  also  included  in  the   governor's  version  a  short-term                                                               
operations plan.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  added the other difference  in his version                                                               
the governor would appoint all members.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:50:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE commented similarly  to the Police Advisory                                                               
Council's being  stacked with retired  police officers,  the AMHS                                                               
board may soon become stacked with union members.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROCKER replied  the intent of HB 63 was  to include only one                                                               
union member, which was already in statute.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:52:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HOPKINS said  the  governor's plan  had  a three-year  and                                                               
five-year version  and asked  whether HB  63 updating  only every                                                               
three years offered enough flexibility.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  replied three years  was a good  amount of                                                               
time to  see the progress the  AMHS was making as  it allowed the                                                               
chance to address problems before problems took hold.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:53:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS announced that HB 63 would be set aside.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:53:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:53 p.m. to 1:55 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
               HB  27-NAMING IRENE WEBBER BRIDGE                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:55:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS  announced that the  final order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 27, "An Act naming the irene Webber Bridge."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:55:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARA  PERMAN,  Staff   to  Representative  Louise Stutes,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  introduced HB  27, which would  rename Bridge                                                               
406, Scott  Glacier No.  6 on  the Copper  River Highway,  to the                                                               
irene Webber  Bridge, in  memory of  the longtime  Cordovan whose                                                               
leadership and vision inspired Cordova's running community.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PERMAN  shared  irene  Webber,  an  Alutiiq  woman  born  in                                                               
Ellamar, Alaska, near Tatitlek, and  later moving with her family                                                               
to Cordova, was  the owner of a seining operation  and founder of                                                               
the  Cordova Running  Club, being  remembered as  the first  sole                                                               
participant in Cordova's inaugural King Salmon Marathon in 1986.                                                                
Ms. Perman noted that irene was  not a lifelong runner, coming to                                                               
the  sport as  an adult.   With  her boundless  enthusiasm, irene                                                               
built  that same  marathon into  the annual  Alaska Salmon  Runs.                                                               
After 34 years, the Alaska  Salmon Runs now boasts five different                                                               
athletic  events:    The  King  Salmon  Marathon,  Sockeye  Half-                                                               
Marathon, Coho  10K, Humpy 5K  and the  Smooth One Mile  Fun Run.                                                               
The races  have become a part  of a renowned sporting  event that                                                               
sees almost 300 participants each year from around the state.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PERMAN  shared irene  was also  responsible for  founding the                                                               
Cordova  2x2  Cancer Walk.    The  annual  walk raised  money  to                                                               
support  Cordova  cancer  patients. Since  its  establishment  in                                                               
2002,  the  event  has  raised   more  than  $100,000  to  assist                                                               
Cordovans  with  cancer  screenings  or  treatment  expenses.  In                                                               
addition to  her contributions to the  Cordova running community,                                                               
irene  selflessly volunteered  her  time  to other  philanthropic                                                               
efforts, supporting St. Jude's  Children's Hospital, The American                                                               
Cancer  Society and  S.I.D.S. Ride-A-Thon.  irene passed  away in                                                               
2018. She is remembered fondly by  many. With the passing of this                                                               
legislation, her  contributions will continue to  be memorialized                                                               
by the Cordova community.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PERMAN noted  the small  "i" would  be used  as that  is how                                                               
irene signed her  name. DOT had been briefed on  this, she noted.                                                               
Family suggested the bridge with  its view of Scott Glacier which                                                               
overlooked the "Nine Mile Sand  Pile," a popular gathering place,                                                               
for  irene's  bridge.   She  pointed  out  that the  King  Salmon                                                               
Marathon  and  Sockeye  Half-Marathon  would also  go  over  this                                                               
bridge.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. PERMAN pointed  out the fiscal note which  included $10K from                                                               
the DOT&PF for signage.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:59:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN  looked to  confirm DOT&PF being  fine with                                                               
lower case "i."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PERMAN replied yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked whether  the sign manufacturer signed                                                               
off on that as well.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PERMAN  noted  HB  27  was  specifically  drafted  with  the                                                               
constituent's request specifying the lower-case "i."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:01:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRONK voiced support for HB 27.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:01:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  also voiced  support but asked  whether it                                                               
was  possible  to  repurpose  some   materials  to  cut  down  on                                                               
material costs.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS  replied finance committee  may be able  to address                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:02:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS opened public testimony on HB 27.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:03:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL WEBBER, Son of irene  Webber, representing self, spoke in                                                               
support of  HB 27.   Shared  his mother  irene, a  "little Alaska                                                               
Native lady with a big heart,"  spoke what was on her mind, which                                                               
empowered folks  in Cordova and gave  them focus.  He  added much                                                               
of this  was in terms  of sobriety as  irene spent over  half her                                                               
life celebrating sobriety.  She made a stand and had  a voice and                                                               
a kind  heart, which  she used  to reach  out to  others, helping                                                               
them in  their difficult times.   She changed her  addiction from                                                               
drinking to running,  which empowered her to the  level it helped                                                               
her create  the races, all named  after species of fish  in honor                                                               
of the  fishing town.   The runs brought the  community together,                                                               
only  getting stronger  over time,  Mr.  Webber said.   irene,  a                                                               
commercial fisherman, was passionate and  it came through in many                                                               
ways,  he  stated.   He  added  she  had  been helping  with  the                                                               
American Cancer Society since the 1970s.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:06:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WEBBER said seeing his mother's  name on a bridge would be an                                                               
honor  for his  family  and  for the  community.    She had  many                                                               
children and grandchildren  as well as followers  in sobriety, he                                                               
stated.    It would  bring  pride  to  those friends  and  family                                                               
members, he shared.  She was a hero in many ways, he said.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:08:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ commented it  was inspiring that a woman                                                               
in long-term  recovery had gone on  to become such a  role model.                                                               
She added it was fitting to  discuss in March, which was sobriety                                                               
awareness month. She thanked the bill sponsor and Mr. Webber.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:09:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS asked the story was with the small "i."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. WEBBER replied  it was part of her personality;  she had used                                                               
a small "i" since the 1960s and had achieved Power of Attorney.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:10:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY BIRD,  representing self,  spoke in  support of  HB 27.   A                                                               
good  friend   of  irene's,  Ms.   Bird  added  the   little  "i"                                                               
represented  Ms.   Webber's  belief   people  shouldn't   be  too                                                               
projecting of themselves;  people didn't need to  be talked about                                                               
so much.   As the editor of  Cordova Times in 80s,  she shared an                                                               
anecdote  that irene  had really  enjoyed an  April Fools'  issue                                                               
over which  others had gotten  upset.  She expressed  her support                                                               
and said there should be no problem with the little "i."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:13:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOPKINS closed public testimony on HB 27.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:13:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HANNAN moved  to report  HB 27  out of  committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:13:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:13 p.m. to 2:16 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:16:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Transportation Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:17                                                                 
p.m.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 63 Sponsor Statement 3.2.2021.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Sectional Analysis 03.01.2021.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
HB 27 Map of Bridge 406, Scott Glacier 6 3.03.2021.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 27
Sponsor Statement HB 27 vA 03.03.2021.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/4/2021 9:00:00 AM
HB 27
HB 27 Supporting Resolutions from City of Cordova and Native Village of Eyak.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 27
HB 63 AMHS Reform Presentation 2.15.18.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Fiscal Note.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Supporting Documents - AMHS Authority Memo 8-89 02.20.2020.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
2021-03-11 - HB 63 HTRA Presentation.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Supporting Documents - The Case for AMHS Reform 2.20.2020.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 Supporting Documents AMHS Stratefic Business and Operational Plan Phase 2 Report 2.20.2020.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
HB 63 - AMHS Reshaping Work Group report to Governor.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
HB0063A.PDF HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 63
HB 27a DOTPF Fiscal Note.pdf HTRA 3/11/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 27